E-mail to send to all your Republican friends

Sat, 02/16/2008 - 10:41pm — afnighthawk

(This post was neither authored nor approved by the leadership of Republicans for Obama. It is simply a posting in a public forum.)

Attention All Texas Republicans and Independents!!

On March 4th, Texas Republicans and Independents will have an opportunity to end Hillary Clinton's (and Bill's) presidential ambitions once and for all!

Since Texas has on open primary, Republicans and Independents should sign in at their polling place and request a Democratic ballot. They should then vote for Barack Obama. Even James Carville admits that if Hillary loses Texas, "she's done!" Republicans can help make this a reality!!! Just think, no more Clintons in the White House!

Voting Democratic this one time will have NO effect on your ability to vote in the next Republican primary or obviously on your vote in November. Since John McCain has the Republican nomination locked up, voting for McCain or Huckabee at this point will have no effect on the outcome on the Republican side.

After you vote during early voting or on March 4th, you ARE NOT done! Report back to your regular polling place at 7PM on March 4th to sign the Barack Obama list for caucus delegates. In a little known Texas voting quirk, 67 delegates to the Democratic convention will be seated because of these caucuses. This is a full one-third of the total number of Texas delegates. For Hillary to lose, she has to lose the primary votes AND the caucus votes. I urge you to vote against Hillary Clinton by voting for Barack Obama.

Please forward this e-mail to all your Republican and Independent friends so that we can help ensure the Clinton's defeat on March 4th!!!

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Thu, 02/21/2008 - 7:04pm — Jason (not verified)

I am a Republican, but I am

I am a Republican, but I am shocked that you would advocate gaming our election process. You are urging american citizens to commit fraud. Don't you want an ethical fair election system? What is wrong with you? This is immoral and unethical. I have no idea if it is illegal, but am reporting it just in case.

Fri, 02/22/2008 - 10:36am — Barbara Gordon

Sorry, Jason. Andrew is

Sorry, Jason. Andrew is right. It's neither immoral nor unethical. You can vote for whomever you want. Now, if you're going to vote under several different names or try to vote in more than one state, that's unethical. That's fraud. But if a Republican wants to choose to vote blue instead of red in this year's primary, he/she has the right to do so.

Thu, 02/21/2008 - 7:42pm — Andrew (not verified)

Lots of states have open

Lots of states have open primaries. I don't see what's so immoral or unethical about voting strategically in the way you think will effect the outcome you desire. One could just as easily say, "I think John McCain will have an easier time beating Hillary Clinton, so I'm going to vote for her in the Democratic primary over Barack Obama". Also, this can cut both ways. For example, nothing is stopping Democrats from saying "I think Obama/HRC will have an easier time beating Mike Huckabee, so I'm going to cross over and vote for him in the Republican primary." As long as the rules allow it, this is a perfectly legitimate exercise of the right to vote. This is also why some states have party registration and closed primaries, in order to prevent such "gaming" of the system.

Fri, 02/22/2008 - 10:59am — Carol2 (not verified)

Jason, Think - This is not

Jason, Think - This is not illegal or unethical. If it were illegal, we would have to vote our party in the upcoming primary. I am a democrat, however, if Hillary Clinton is our nominee or if the DNC allows the superdelegates to determine the outcome of the current elections, I will vote for John McCain in the general election, as many American democrats will. This is not illegal or unethical, it is more appropriately known as FREEDOM OF CHOICE, this is America remember - a free country.

Sat, 02/23/2008 - 11:00pm — Anonymous (not verified)

Yes it is unethical and it

Yes it is unethical and it is dishonest. I don't care if you are a democrat, you are giving people advice that hurts the Democratic party.

If you are a Republican, I can see why you would vote for Obama. You all will annihilate

him in the November. That is how shallow this man is.

Sun, 02/24/2008 - 1:19pm — angelo3718

hello its me again

hello its me again anonymous, barbara once again ur correct you can vote on who ever you decide, according to the polls OBAMA will out win mccain 7 to 1 in november why? because all of us republicans, will be voting for obama in november, that includes us white rep americans, anonymous you might as well join us, you cant win there are too many republicans that are going to vote for obama next week and in november OBAMA PRESIDENT IN 2008

Sun, 02/24/2008 - 9:57am — SPasse

Anonymous, You wrote:"Yes it

Anonymous,

You wrote:

"Yes it is unethical and it is dishonest. I don't care if you are a democrat, you are giving people advice that hurts the Democratic party.

If you are a Republican, I can see why you would vote for Obama. You all will annihilate

him in the November. That is how shallow this man is."

I don't understand this. If your state allows unaffiliated voting there is nothing unethical or dishonest about this in the least.

We have come to a point where lifelong republicans like myself have been disenfranchised by their party and are looking for a person that is not owned by the special interests and can also united the country.

"The torch has been passed to a new generation of Americans" - JFK

Regards,

Scott

Sun, 02/24/2008 - 12:25pm — Anonymous (not verified)

Oh my good lord, you

Oh my good lord, you Republicons commenting think we're REALLY stupid to believe that there's nothing unethical about gaming the system? You know exactly how to mess with the Democrats and you're scared cr@pless to go up against Clinton in the GE because you know you'd lose...Obama is an easy kill, McCain will have him for breakfast and cr@p him out before the Presidential Inauguration dinner. Don't think we don't know this, which is why Clinton supporters are getting heavier with their support, especially after Clinton when ape yesterday in Ohio.

Sun, 02/24/2008 - 12:58pm — Anonymous (not verified)

Who ever you are, I do wish

Who ever you are, I do wish you and your candidate well as I choose to celebrate our democratic process but not by dragging others down. We Americans have differences of opinions but there are healthy ways to express ideas. I would suggest trying less negative and name calling language to gather support for your views!!

Sun, 02/24/2008 - 12:40pm — Erik Paterson

Obviously this latest post

Obviously this latest post shows the author (who is scared cr@pless to reveal his or her name) to be dillusional. Hillary Clinton is the one who is scared, watching her dreams of glory and self gratification rapidly disappearing with each primary victory by Barack Obama. Her going "ape" over the TRUTH only shows her desperation and weakness of character.

Mon, 02/25/2008 - 12:02am — BJ Pemberton (not verified)

If no one has notice, we ARE

If no one has notice, we ARE in a Recession! Meanwhile the war is costing Americans more than $338 Million a day! With this money we could pay for housing for hundreds of thousands of families, scholarships for students, and healthcare for all!Were borrowing $343 million every day to finance the war in Iraq. Hillary Clinton will get us out of Iraq! She will implement healthcare for all and better funding for college students. She knows what she's doing and we do not have the money to waste time on outsourcing our industry and send money to everyone in the world, at the expense the well being of the American people! We need our boys and girls to come home and take care of their own families, so everyone else doesn't have to! Wake up America! No 'Hundred Year war Mc Cain, and no outsourcing to Africa Obama. We already send about 30 million dollars to Africa ever year and this does not count the special groups who finance their own agenda in Africa! I want someone who has an interest in America First not just Black America! I don't want to be in a hundred year war! I want to drive down the roads and not fall into a giant pot hole! We need infrastructure people! Unite for Hillary Clinton! Unite for Peace and for America! Start using your minds for a change!

Tue, 02/26/2008 - 12:05am — Anonymous (not verified)

Check your facts - actually

Check your facts - actually the current Bush Administration has pledged the most funding of all countries on this planet to Africa - and I applaud him for it. By the way, I am a white educated person.

Mon, 02/25/2008 - 12:02am — BJ Pemberton (not verified)

If no one has notice, we ARE

Mon, 02/25/2008 - 12:13am — Suzi

BJ, where did all of that

BJ, where did all of that come from?? One of the main things Obama has talked about is bringing jobs home to America....stopping tax breaks to those companies that outsource jobs. Never have I heard anything about sending the jobs to Africa or any other continent or nation.

Mon, 02/25/2008 - 12:21am — BJ (not verified)

Obamas is supported by his

Obamas is supported by his Church Leadership of Dr. Rev. Wright! Dr. Wright's church is firmly entreanched in the premise that they support a black America, a Black agenda, and support to Africa, first and foremost! Look up his name in your search and you will find his information.

also-

Did Obama recklessly aligned himself with opposition leader Raila Odinga of the Orange Democratic Movement? Followers of Odinga, a member of the minority Luo tribe, have perpetrated horrific atrocities against members of the Kikuyu tribe because incumbent president Mwai Kibaki and the nation's ruling elite are Kikuyu. One of the worst incidents occurred in the village of Eldoret, where dozens of Kikuyu Christians burned to death when they sought shelter in a church that was then set afire by their rampaging pursuers.
These events are set within the broader story line of an alleged Muslim plot to overthrow the Kibaki government, which is friendly to the United States and the West, and replace the secular constitution of Kenya with sharia law, creating a haven for al-Qaida -- which blew up the U.S. Embassy in Nairobi a decade ago and still operates there, according to American diplomats. During the Kenyan election, the Christian evangelical movement in Kenya circulated a "memorandum of understanding" allegedly signed by Odinga and a group of Muslim clerics that would commit his government to instituting Muslim strictures against pork and alcohol, setting up sharia courts and ending cooperation against terrorism with Western governments.

Odinga claims to be Obamas cousin, and Obama claims not to be Muslim.

It is true that Obama, whose Father's family is Luo, lent support to the opposition leader during a visit to Kenya two years ago -- and that they have maintained contact ever since. While that gaffe infuriated the Kibaki regime, it proved only that Obama lacked diplomatic expertise.

The Kenya tale portrays Obama as a callow politician with dubious associations, who cannot be trusted with power.

Here's more about Obama-

http://obamatruth.org/

Mon, 02/25/2008 - 1:07am — Suzi

BJ I have researched all

BJ I have researched all of your false information with reputable sources, and will leave you to your rant.......I know the truth.

I will not be answering you again. Some people cannot be reasoned with.

Good night.

Mon, 02/25/2008 - 1:37am — Shawnna (not verified)

I too have researched what

I too have researched what those of you who keep posting want to say about Obama. Frankly the information they are posting about the hospital in Chicago is from 2005. Come on you have no current facts about that to shore up your cause. Yet you will stand behind Hilary Clinton with her I did not say that about NAFTA I really meant BLAH BLAH is what I hear from her. She is the true politician. Groomed to mis-lead you. Go to project vote and really look up her voting record and compare it to what she claims to stand for and who she is. The are so far out of alignment it can not even be compared to being on the same planet. All of those who are mud slinging. One of the reasons as a staunch Republican that I will vote for Obama is that I want a different stance on someone who has not catered to different groups and changed his message based on the polls and trying to please one group or another. He comes to the table as he is and says this is my message this is who I am. Take me or leave me. It has been decades since we have seen someone give us that. I will not say I can commit to vote for him in Novemeber I will see his message and McCain's message that is why we have the freedom to vote. What I can say that as of today and as of March 4th he is who I choose to be president. If more information comes out and change my mind then that is my right and freedom of choice the founding fathers gave me.

Stop slinging mud at each other and just try and express an opinion with respect to each other.

Check the site out and see exactly how each of them has voted on the issues that matter most to you. Then decide for your self from there. Each of them has strength and weakness. My bottom line is who can re-unite this country, bring our soldiers home to shore up our home front, and help to provide the healthcare that so many of us Americans are lacking. At this point I do not think either McCain, or Clinton have the bipartisan message or the right desire to do so. Looke forward to your comments about my stance.

http://www.votesmart.org/election_president.php

Mon, 02/25/2008 - 12:14am — Suzi

BJ, where did all of that

Sun, 02/24/2008 - 3:09pm — SandiLincoln

Agreeing with Erik~the

Agreeing with Erik~the "shame on you" rhetoric on a truthful flyer is about theatrics. She went off on a topic that was last months news. I wouldn't want to be her, trying every last ditch effort to figure out what went wrong, but you can't keep changing a message...and that's why I love Obama even over everyone he came up against on both sides. He's keep the same message when they were up and when they were down. He's authentic, and I'll take that over anyone. Even my McCain who I did have a lot of respect for has to pander to the conservative side (the radical conservative side) and he's lost his authenticity. Bummer for him. Barack will totally rock the General Election because at least he hasn't had to change posters and repainted his bus. When McCain even says Fired Up Ready to Go, how will he be a strong contender?

This is an amazing time, and I am so glad I can say I was with Obama from the beginning of this year. (when I caucused). I was undecided until then. We had like 15 people to chose from, then!!! He had me at "HOPE". And I am not duped!

Mon, 02/25/2008 - 12:11am — BJ (not verified)

Obama has no message he

Obama has no message he hasn't borrowed from Someone else! Obama has done nothing for IL. and I know, I live here! His friends have threatened Tavis Smiley, a Black man who had Hillary on his show and spoke to her with repect! Jesse Jackson Jr. Compares Obama's campagin to OJ simpson and and what he needs to do with a White woman. It's up at U-Tube. Obama is not proud to be an American and neither is his wife! Obama supports and identifies with his Black father from Africa, who had several wives and left him at two years old! This man is very confused and the last thing we need is more confusion in the White House! Vote Hillary!

Mon, 02/25/2008 - 12:20am — Suzi

BJ, I am not going to even

BJ, I am not going to even try again to tell you that actual facts that are out there for anyone to find. You obviously have a very racist agenda, and there would be absolutely no point to in trying enlighten you.

You have the right to vote for the candidate of your choice, just as I have. Please notice that I am not saying inflamatory and untrue things about your candidate as you are about mine.

Have a nice life.

Mon, 02/25/2008 - 12:30am — BJ (not verified)

I only lift from the pages

I only lift from the pages of the National new sources. I do not tell lies! I would love it if Obama was what he says he is! It would be good for the Democratic party, but he simply does not understand that action speak louder than words. Too many young people do not remember the words of JFK and how many times Obama quotes him. They think it's all first time Obama. Great skill at speaking but no substance. By The way, I am not a racist! My own Grandson is of mixed heritage!

Mon, 02/25/2008 - 12:21am — SPasse

Hi All, Should have known;

Hi All,

Should have known; Hillary plants. ;)

Regards,

Scott

Mon, 02/25/2008 - 12:22am — Suzi

Scott, I don't think even

Scott, I don't think even Hillary would be proud to have that one in her camp.:)

Mon, 02/25/2008 - 12:23am — Suzi

Scott, I don't think even

Scott, I don't think even Hillary would be proud to have that one in her camp.:)

Tue, 02/26/2008 - 12:15am — Anonymous (not verified)

Let's hope that person is in

Let's hope that person is in Hillary's camp - I don't want anyone that ugly in my candidate's camp.

Mon, 02/25/2008 - 1:05am — BJ (not verified)

http://election.newsmax.com/m

http://election.newsmax.com/machinists_obama/?s=al&promo_code=45A3-1

All I can say is that is Obama wins the Democratic primaries, I will vote Repulican, as I cannot vote for Obama! I must pick the lesser of two evils. I am truly sorry to have been the one to speak on the problems with Obama, but Living in the Chicago area, you see things with your own eyes! I consider myself an independant. I think the black people are a proud race and have always admired Black leaders in this country, who truly wish for an equal and fair America. If Colin Powel had run for President, he would have had my vote!

Mon, 02/25/2008 - 8:59am — SPasse

BJ,Any comments about Obama

BJ,

Any comments about Obama coming from Jesse Jackson Jr. have no weight with me on any subject. He is a huckster and a controversy hype machine. He makes the most outrageous claims just to create attention for his propaganda empire. Quite frankly, Jesse Jackson doesn't want racial harmony: that would put him out of a job.

Your comments about his friends "threatening" Tavis Smiley are interesting. Can you point me to a news article on that subject?

I believe that Obama wants to pull together Americans of all races, creeds, and socioeconomic persuasions. That scares the hell out of people and organizations that owe their existence to the current racial divide. This is born out in statements from certain segments of this ilk like Chude-Sokei that Obama is not "Black Enough" This is a reoccurring theme among certain members of the Black community with the same kinds of vested interests: http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1584736,00.html

My favorite quote from this Time article is this: "Back in the real world, Obama is married to a black woman. He goes to a black church. He's worked with poor people on the South Side of Chicago, and still lives there. That someone given the escape valve of biraciality would choose to be black, would see some beauty in his darker self and still care more about health care and public education than reparations and Confederate flags is just too much for many small-minded racists, both black and white, to comprehend."

As far as "not being proud of being an American" well there are some issues right now that make that harder than it has been in recent memory... I'm still "proud to be an American, but that perspective taken to extremes, excuses all sorts of moral abuses.

Regards,

Scott

Mon, 02/25/2008 - 9:05am — SPasse

Hi All,I also find it

Hi All,

I also find it extremely interesting that the "nastygrams" are coming from Hillary supporters as opposed to Republicans.

Scott

Mon, 02/25/2008 - 11:54am — Anonymous (not verified)

odd, I looked at this site

odd, I looked at this site last night and there was all sorts of posts encouraging the cross over vote and now they are gone but these ones from alledged Clinton supporters are here in their place....interesting.

Mon, 02/25/2008 - 10:32pm — Barbara Gordon

I have no idea what you're

I have no idea what you're trying to allege but we don't remove any posts. I'm sure if you bother to peruse the forum, rather than just the front page, you'll find what you seek.

RFO neither authored nor authorized the emails causing the ruckus. We just have a public forum, and, as is common in public forums, people post all kind of stuff. We have people posting all kinds of false mythology about Obama, for example. We don't delete that stuff either.

Mon, 02/25/2008 - 10:19pm — Anonymous (not verified)

There is no doubt that this

There is no doubt that this is little more than another "tricky" game being played by Republicans. Dems do them too, just look at the Clinton campaign. This is exactly what Barack Obama wants to end, people lying to achieve a specific end in their voting. That's right, if you vote for Obama and you aren't going to vote for him in the fall then you are a lying piece of trash. Not surrpising to me. I grew up in Republican Kansas in 50s and knew alot of the Birchers and early neocons there and they would do anything. They had no sense of truth or morality, only winning and getting their way. If this country actually survives it won't be because of a_holes like you guys. Get a moral spine. Quit gaming this country's future.

Mon, 02/25/2008 - 10:35pm — Barbara Gordon

This email was neither

This email was neither authored nor authorized by the site. I'd imagine that anyone who uses political forums on a regular basis would understand how public boards work: people get to write whatever they want, like your friendly little post, for example.

Tue, 02/26/2008 - 12:11am — Suzi

Now hear this!I am going to

Now hear this!

I am going to explain this very clearly from my point of view.....this was a site where Republican Obama supporters gathered to disscuss issues, the difficulties we encounteras Republicans for Obama, and ways to help the campaign. As we are starting to get publicity, people seem to be coming here who have a different agenda. There is nothing the admin. can do about it, short of violating the rights of posters to express themselves, which I am proud to say they do not do. If someone from either party wants to come in and suggest "strategic" (for lack of a better word) methods, so be it. If someone wants to come in here and make rude and insulting posts, accusing us of things that never occured to us, so be it. I don't agree with doing either of those things. If you choose to let bitterness, anger and partisanship dominate your views, so be it. Just know that this is just what Obama is trying to change. I totally support him in that, and will support him all the way to the November general election.